SH: In terms of people driving down your numbers who ostensibly agree with you?
JS: Ok, yes. The politics of fear that tells you you have to vote against what you are afraid of rather than what you truly believe. Noam Chomsky has supported me in my home state when he felt safe to do so. I think my agenda is far closer to his than Hillary Clinton's, but he subscribes to the politics of fear. Young people growing up today do not see the Democratic Party as the Party of The New Deal. They don's see it as the Party that is going to save us. They see it as the Party of fracking, of opening up the arctic, that pushed for the TransPacific Pipeline until they were forced by the grassroots to stop, the Party of expanding wars and drone assassinations, the Party of immigrant deportations and night raids. Donald Trump says terrifying things. Hillary Clinton has an extremely troubling record, from leading the charge into catastrophe of Libya, to saying, send them home to the children fleeing violence in Latin America, which she herself had a hand in, by giving the thumbs up to the coup in Honduras, ushering in incredible violence from which tens of thousands are fleeing. Hillary has been a major proponent of fracking around the world and has just appointed Ken Salazar, the best friend of fracking, to her transition team. The climate is not looking so good under a Hillary Clinton administration. Coal is terrible but the signs on fracking say that it is probably just as bad. It's not okay to open up an entirely new generation of infrastructure now that is going to wed us to fracking for another 40 years. It is basically curtains the minute we do that. There are many people who take a different point of view and recognize that the politics of fear delivered everything we were afraid of. All the reasons you were told to vote for the lesser evil because you didn't want the meltdown of the climate, expanding wars, off shoring jobs. That is exactly what we have gotten. Democracy needs a moral compass. It's not enough to vote against. We need an affirmative agenda, especially at a time when there are enough people that we can actually drive that agenda forward. We could potentially win this race. I'm not holding my breath but I'm not ruling it out. This is a crazy election. It's not over until it's over.